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azdesertrose) wrote2009-04-30 10:09 pm
azdesertrose) wrote2009-04-30 10:09 pm
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I am having fun!
I have gotten into a discussion on one of my message boards about same-sex marriage.
I haven't had this much fun in a long time.
It seems like nobody can give a decent rebuttal to anything I've said in favor of same-sex marriage.
One poster raised the tired old "the Bible says so" argument; I found a long list of other things the Bible has said are acceptable conditions of marriage, with citations for chapter and verse (amongst other atrocities, that the punishment for rape is that the rapist must marry his victim, unless they were already engaged, in which case they would both be executed if he raped her in town, and he would be executed if he raped her in the country, but in any case, she would no longer be marriageable, and that a woman is her father's property until she marries and her husband's property thereafter). She was able to come up with one quote that says a husband should cleave unto his wife upon marriage and thereafter, but nothing to say that marriage equals one man and one woman.
Another poster put up that bullshit of "I don't mind gay people but they can't be gay [i.e. touch each other in any way at all] in front of me." I jumped all over that, too, with the fact that no one cares if a straight couple makes out on a park bench, but a gay couple who dare to so much as touch each other in public are often subject to horrible insults at the very least.
Someone else protested "in-your-face militant gay rights activists." I said that without "in-your-face militant" feminists, women would still not have the legal right to vote, and husbands could still legally beat and rape their wives. I got a response about Dr. King advocating non-violence, to which I asked for examples of violent gay rights activism. No reply.
Funny how the bullshit melts in the rain of facts. :)
I haven't had this much fun in a long time.
It seems like nobody can give a decent rebuttal to anything I've said in favor of same-sex marriage.
One poster raised the tired old "the Bible says so" argument; I found a long list of other things the Bible has said are acceptable conditions of marriage, with citations for chapter and verse (amongst other atrocities, that the punishment for rape is that the rapist must marry his victim, unless they were already engaged, in which case they would both be executed if he raped her in town, and he would be executed if he raped her in the country, but in any case, she would no longer be marriageable, and that a woman is her father's property until she marries and her husband's property thereafter). She was able to come up with one quote that says a husband should cleave unto his wife upon marriage and thereafter, but nothing to say that marriage equals one man and one woman.
Another poster put up that bullshit of "I don't mind gay people but they can't be gay [i.e. touch each other in any way at all] in front of me." I jumped all over that, too, with the fact that no one cares if a straight couple makes out on a park bench, but a gay couple who dare to so much as touch each other in public are often subject to horrible insults at the very least.
Someone else protested "in-your-face militant gay rights activists." I said that without "in-your-face militant" feminists, women would still not have the legal right to vote, and husbands could still legally beat and rape their wives. I got a response about Dr. King advocating non-violence, to which I asked for examples of violent gay rights activism. No reply.
Funny how the bullshit melts in the rain of facts. :)